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:lol: yes, today is today :lol:
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To err is human.. :/
And yes, it was today :O
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Post by Xavious »

err, confused now,...

anyway, question for carny. remember you used to have that directory on your dl site (i forget its name) that said if you have a nice demo of a match send it to me, what did you mean. was that like soneone recorded a match into a little movie? if it was, how is this done?
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Post by DìèHárd»§ÇW§ »

What he ment is; you can record a match and you can replay that in your unreal, forgot the commands now (btw it never worked on me but i start to think thats due to my version of Unreal :? ).

But it is possible to convert it into an actual movie so you can play it in lets say the Mediaplayer.

Hellraiser has done it before www.iamhellraiser.com, on the mainpage you will find one or two recorded things from Unreal, problem was, he made them for realplayer (and who has that friggen player anyway, loaded with adds and spyshit).

I dont know how he has done it, i still need to ask him, certainly one of the things that should wind up on the techpages.


But yes you can record everything you do in Unreal, it is often done so you can check later on if spawnkilling did occur or if there was fairplay all together. If i am right you can replay the match and watch it from any players perspective like being on spec, but i could be wrong on that last.


Also i am not sure if a match recording has to be done serversided, but you can start a map yourself and play it while recording.
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Post by Xavious »

gd,gd

my and my friend .:..: have decided to make a short action movie for unreal. it will involve showy down bits matrix style and alot of jumping.

were basically doing it to show of unreal and how far it and its mods have progressed.

whats were thinking of doing is going onto our server, and shooting little scenes from all sorts of maps.

then when we have alot of footage, were going to use some music in the background, and use sonic foundry or something like that to edit the music , slow it down and speed it up in places.

then well edit the video itself. well edit it to the music, then do a load of other stuff like add graphics and stuff.

the only hard part will be actually recording the footage itself. by the end of it, it will look something like a skate movie. if youve played tony hawks underground and completed it then youll see the mctwist over the helecopter footage. thats the kinda thing were aiming for here.

anyway thanks for the help hellraiser.
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When i wrote about Hellraisers site i knew i had seen a homemade movie before, i just lost it were i found it.

:idea: Well :D I found the link back, it is on a Polish site, a guy named Micro made that movie about Unreal, I think its cool work. You may want to download it and go see it. The zipfile itself is 35 Mb, unpacked its almost 60 Mb.


This is the link from the Polish homepage: www.unreal.ebox.pl. All together it looks like an ok website about Unreal :) (looks, cause i dont read Polish lol, though i am getting there 8) )


I think this comes very close to what you want to do, maybe you could contact Micro and ask him how he did it.


If you do know how its all done, would be cool if you would post the result on this forum. I myself have plans for making a kinda movie about my clan, though i may do this using a 3D environment like Bryce combined with Unreal. Not to mention that i would like to see your result in time, i think making a movie about the progress of Unreal and mods is a cool idea.

One of the problems i will have is that i need 30 to 60 players in one server by the time i want to make my movie. And as it is i have tons of other work before i get there (i lost a whole friggen year on my eye problems :( )



I think you will like the Polish idea about Unreal, go get it lol.......:) :)
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Oops forgot to login, post above is from me, but you may have guessed that since i seem unable to make short posts lol.
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Post by }TCP{aLICe »

*cough* I'm from Poland.
This move was created on 3th birthday of Unreal Service but who made it?
Micro is webmaster of that page.
BTW this site is very recent! You can find there CC even :)
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Post by DìèHárd»§ÇW§ »

Yes on the end of the movie it says follow:
This movie was created for the "Unreal Service" readers
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Design, idea and all work: Micro
Unreal Service is now 3 YEARS old
You got me a bit lost there, you say its a very recent site but at the same time it seem to have a 3 year anniversary. Btw do you know more Polish sites about Unreal.
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Post by }TCP{aLICe »

I mean that you can find there fresh, recent stuff.
I saw Polish Unreal sites but were worse than this one.
And I will see movie tomorow :-)
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Post by Xavious »

thnx m8, big help.

that should further my plans about the domination of na pali....

edit: just watched that movie by micro, its actually really good.

you guys should all watch it.

but when he was shooting the skaarj with the asmd, there was dust or something comign off the skaarj. does that really happen?
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Post by Micro »

who called my nick? HUH?? :P

Hi, every1

first of all i am very (well) suprised, that my little work can make such discussion, at least guide it this way. It's nice :)

well, yes, i made that short movie. First it was just a tought to make something for my guests, cuz 3rd birdhday of this site was close. It is not a great production, especially i lost later my project file (all was mounted with Adobe Premiere) so i am no longer able to make it again with some friendlier format, i.e. DivX. It could be much more clear and better at all if not WMP format (maybe with some cost of size).

Now, few words about the way it was created.
Actually, there are no any demos. Just real time recordning directly form the screen, game was in a window and resized so it can fit 640x480 without window border (in 2 scenes in the movie u can see i made a mistake with scalling, there r some lines in them, but u won't see them if not full screen so that's why those errors r still there).
First i put all ideas on paper - what i want from it, what scenes i need, what texts should be there or there, etc etc.
It could be much easier if Unreal would record demo files (u know the problem). I didn't know how to fix it....... so the hell was started with game window, slomo command (if u think slower=better ur really wrong) at 0.3 - 0.5. I said 'hell' cuz my machine (AthlonXP 1700+, 512DDR@333MHz, REALLY fast 40GB hdd, GF4@64MB DDR RAM and so on...) has really big trouble with framming at 20fps from the screen. Reccorded milion times same scene - one in ghost mode, second w/o HUD etc etc... When hdd space was getting low (lol, below 3GB - was about 30) then second hell has begun.
Next needed tool was Jasc Animation Shop (trial was really cool, i found it with Paint Shop Pro integrated). One by one scene - censored and/or deleted. Best left. One scene that is about few seconds still makes my system hang || crash becouse of low system resources left when finishing loading it and movie was recorded @ 20-25fps.
Then slow down/speed up each scene to make it playng like normal motion
Next, go Photoshop, and make some text pictures on black background (to fit eventual alpha channels - look at the Unreal Service logo on the corner of movie, it's transparent).
Hmmm... remember that skaarj who won't hurt u... much? :P red screen after takin a hit - just red square then black again.
Anyway, all work after that was about 20% done.
Real trouble now - Adobe Premiere. I was havin no fuc***g ideas what to do woth this dark program. Learning, learning and learning... pretty alone cuz of lack of good tutorials. Or maybe i am so stupid, doesn't matter.
Making a tracks, adding text pictures, effects and so on - longest part. Perhaps if compile time of stupid preview could take less than 30 minutes it could be faster. Changes was making in 1-2 minutes, so efficiency is... duh....
Finally, u have to make a choose of final format (in my Premiere simple AVI was looking pretty good, but sound wasn't converted right). But it is easy to convert classic AVI to DivX, but with WMV it is impossible - i am crying to this day... i dodn't know about that :(
I lost my project file shortly after publishing. So i will not recompile it again. I can only say that if it was DivX then it could looks just like full time matrix ripped from DVD, only one difference is resolution. Your choice.

Is all clear now? :)
belive me or not, i don't care about it - build time of that movie is, attention- better sit down, 12 days with 24/7 full time work. If someone would tell me that is possible before i made it, i would call him lier. Now i know it is possible (not without costs, i was getting no-funny crazy after that). So belive or not, i can understand it so i don't care. :)

And finnaly, about my website. Actually for now it is the only one site about this game (Unreal 1, not others) in whole Poland. It was havin 3rd birthday last summer. I guess it won't have 4th... troubles touches everyone (just look at unrealized.com or oldunreal.com). Belive me, if this site will go down, Unreal will die here with Unreal Service. Almost 1,4 GB of Unreal1 related stuff, tons of tutorials, raports, solutions, descriptions and finally forums that i made by myself. Version 3.0 is just getting installed on the server.
I love this game, just love it.

Someone here gets lol only cuz of .pl suffix --- pffff... so what? It is bad this way? OK, just kidding, i know it is kinda hard to understand to at least most of u (just like my english... yeah, now lol). I am searching for some guy who can translate it. I can tell this with full resposibility - Unreal Service was, is and always WILL BE only about U1 and nothing else. U won't find any english (for sure) site with all of that is on mine one. Especially with so much heart pushed into it. 2 years ago i was looking for better sites, and still finding them. Now i am unable to find better and i am hapy and unhappy with it. Happy becouse i made best site at least in this part of world. Unhappy, cuz i love this game and this wasn't my aim. Now Unreal1 will go down with this site and ppl here will quickly forget my favorite game. And i guess it will happen, i am no longer able to keeping it. Now i made a forum engine, 3rd version - based on txt files - no databases - and it is better than phpbb - well planned, easy to expand and havily configurable and user-friendly. 3 mounths of work this time.. just to be deleted by my admin becouse of no payment from new year start. Why i am saying all that shits... don't even know.. it is very sad for me, here are some U1 "lovers" so maybe some day someone would say: "remember Micro? He never got single cent for his work, he is dead now, remember...?".
I think you will like the Polish idea about Unreal, go get it lol.......
yes........ nice...

well.. this is not my fault i was born here, however, u would better be happy u wasn't... i am a man just like You, friend. Go to the france... those guys will not even know wtf ru takling about to them... ;)

BTW - i want to thank }TCP{Wolf and all that guys here who made server mods - even if some of them are not very hard to make, others are. I know how dofficult programming is at all, i am programmer.
Thx friends.

And now to }TCP{aLICe
dzieki, ze dostalem tego maila. Nie sadzilem ze jeszcze kogos ta robota interesuje i wszystko co napisalem, chociaz moze ulomnie, jest prawda. Umieram i niestety zabiore strone ze soba jesli nikt jej nie przetlumaczy. Dobrze wiesz, ze nie ma tu innej strony o u1. Kazy kogo pytam dlaczego nie zrobil choc moze - "bo twoja jest lepsza niz ja moge zrobic". To boli. Nie chce aby ta gra tutaj umarla, szczegolnie w tak durny sposob. Nie stac mnie na utrymanie tej strony dalej, robie co moge ale nie wiem czy dam arde. Do tego mam nie wiele zycia przez chorobe. Moze ktos da rade to przetlumaczyc nie tracac przy tym tego klimatu slowa jaki tam sie zrodzi......
Poza tym, grajac ostatnio w singla, tuz przed NaliCastle znalazlem taki dziwny nagrobek. Napewno kojarzysz taki wielki pomnik, niby krzyz a'la nali. obok jest tablica nagrobkowa... chyba cos takiego mi sie marzy wlasnie. Dostac pomnik w grze... chociaz i tak to nie bedzie mialo znaczenia dla mnie wtedy... chyba mam dola i dlatego to pisze. nie ma sie komu wygadac... nie mow im co Ci napisalem, niech sie dowiedza dopiero gdy ktos sie potrudzi samemu aby to przeczytac.. jesli ja znam odrobine ang to oni moga tyle samo polski... serdecznie pozdrow ode mnie koniecznie.. wasza strona to jedna z niewielu jakie odwiedzam regularnie. Mysle ze bede tu teraz czesciej zagladal niz do tej pory, po protu sie nie rejestrowalem bo do czytania nie trzeba bylo ;)


Greetings for all of You Friends :)
have a nice work hehe.. ;)
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Post by }TCP{aLICe »

Micro wrote: It could be much easier if Unreal would record demo files (u know the problem). I didn't know how to fix it..
Sorry I don't know :roll:
I can record demo. Start and stop recording. But I can't run/open it cause of error and crash :-(
Anyone knows anything? How to fix it?

If it is this known problem and it could be repeired, there are glide wrapers. Maybe it is possible to get a source code of such wrappers and recode it to write all to disk not gfx card :idea: :?:
Or :idea: I think thera are tools to grap d3d/ogl screenshots so maybe movies too.
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