Spawn Killing in Freon ?

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Spawn Killing in Freon ?

Post by }TCP{Ramses »

Playing tonight on the server I was accused of spawnkilling when I
shot someone who had just thawed :shock:

I had until then thought that freshly thawed peeps were fair game (similar to ressed peeps in TAM) ... it's not like DM where you spawn with no useful weapons, and in Freon you even know when you are about to thaw
afterall ?

I thought that you could only unfairly spawnkill in Freon (or TAM) when someone had just joined the server and was there in body but not in ping as it were.

Is my understanding wrong ? I would not like to go around stomping if everyone else thinks it's not erm cricket :P

BTW the victim and I parted on good terms after he had recovered from his initial shock :lol: :hurray:
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i agree whit you, not whit them =)
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I also agree with you PD.
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i got to etmid tho that people body camping is bad
if people keep body camping and killing them when they untawn (freaky_party style), i rly get pissed
if it whold be like that i agree whit the others

but i guess rams didn't body camp
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Post by }TCP{Digi »

I look at it like this I aim at the person doing the thawing if the guy thats frozen gets thawed as my shots hit then tuff.
At the same time I dont stand next to a stiff and wait for him to thaw.
Rams you are one of the most honest sporting players I play with I know you would never do anything in a bad sporting way :)
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Post by }TCP{Wolf »

Ramses your understanding is correct, although I find it terribly frustrating myself at times to be thawed only to get killed again.

... on a tactical note: if you know you're about to thaw somebody 100% and there are enemies around, MOVE AWAY!
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Post by Apollo »

Lol, there is no such thing as spawnkilling in freon. :P

Spawnkilling comes mainly from Ons. If you have someone in a tank, and he or she is camping a locked node. And is shooting the people spawning. Thats spawnkilling.

Why the hell do you want the person being unfrozen to run off and fight for longer. Yes, bodycamping is lame. But hey, its part of the game ffs.
I agree with what Digi said, tuff is someone is unfreezing you and they dont move if they are under attack. Its not the attackers fault its the person who is unfreezings fault.

People use to be able to spawnkill on DM, alongtime ago. But now you randomly spawn on the map. So it aint really possible to do it anymore.

I dont think some people know what the term spawnkilling means. If you dont try playing games like, BF2142 and counterstrike. Where people know where you are going to spawn. (eg) Ons as well.

Meh dont listen to em Rams, your a fair gamer m8. 8)
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Post by NmS »

Spawning isn't enterly random in DM btw. For instance you don't spawn in the same area as where your opponent is at the time when you get killed. You always spawn at a different area. Knowing this, a good player will always know where an opponent will spawn when he killed him in a certain area ;).

Anyways, back on topic. I don't find it lame to spawnkill in freon. I don't even find it lame when people bodycamp me. Find it quite funny actually. I know when I will spawn and they don't, so I find it challanging to use this suprise to my advantage and turn the tables around :D.

But you shouldn't have died in the first place anyway! :P
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NmS wrote: Anyways, back on topic. I don't find it lame to spawnkill in freon. I don't even find it lame when people bodycamp me. Find it quite funny actually. I know when I will spawn and they don't, so I find it challanging to use this suprise to my advantage and turn the tables around :D.
not evry1 got your skills ;)

to bad no1 remembers the way freaky_party plays
then prolly no1 whold say bodycamping is part of freon xD
when people say that 3 rox in the ass is no skill or bio kills neeed no skill
well for bodycamping you don't even need skill @ all
(except when you body camp nms it seems)
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}TCP{Apollo wrote:Why the hell do you want the person being unfrozen to run off and fight for longer.
Not the person being unfrozen, but the person doing the thawing. If enemies are near, it's wiser to be away from people who thaw completely, as accidental crossfire is less likely to hit the thawed people.
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Post by Apollo »

I agree with yah Wolf.
I have lost count of the amount of times someone has stood next to me, when underfire, then jumps to the side and the enemys shot hits me the instant i thaw. :(

I think you got that bit wrong Wolf, read the bit after it. This is what I mean.
Why would you want to let the person who has just or neally been unfrozen, have the chance to run off and fight another day. So the most logial thing to do is, kill em as soon as they unfreeze.
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Post by }TCP{Ramses »

Thanks everyone ... confirms what I thought: it's almost impossible to spawn kill in Freon :)

That's why I like TAM and Freon btw ... far fewer opportunities to play lame :D

To me spawn killing conjures old images from U1 .... someone deciding to ignore the common convention and cowardly blasting at a newly spawned victim as they ran away deperately firing the pop gun into the air in protest :lol:
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Basicly in freon i try to kill everything that is not in my team .. frozen or not :) preferably both so i get the adren and the foes have 1 player less.

If it just happens to be someone who just thawed .. to bad for him/her :D i would exspect the foes to do the same to me if they where smart :)
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Post by }TCP{Killerdan »

If you camp there body from the moment they freeze to the moment they unfreeze + Lava and then kill them then u suck and points meen everything to you.
If you know that someone is going to come out of freeze in less then 10seconds and kill them then its np / skilled timeing is always nice but noobies who stand there for ages with a flak in your face just need to be shot ( in the face ....... with a gun....... twice........) / thats just my opin.
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Post by }TCP{Carnage »

Well camping frozen foes is generaly a bad idea anyways
Standing still in game is generaly a very bad idea coz u get shot quite quickly
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