If you look at the cpu or any other component in a computer, the components they use seem smaller than the electrons and molucules in electricity. I wonder sometimes, how they get through the soder lines they use.
But honestly, $$$$ is more important to me than to overclock. I would rather play longer, than play faster.
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It might not be as straight forward as that Coco.
I read that some chips are graded less than their true capacity simply because the manufacturer has already made enough top performing chips to satisfy the high end market. There is more demand for mid and low price range chips and by limiting the capacity of these excess top chips they can sell them without affecting the price of the top range by oversupplying them. Something to do with the manufacturing process producing variable capacity chips.
Then again I read this some time ago and the manufacturing process may well have changed since. Also, I don't know how you check what the true rating is of that chip you just bought, or how you can unlock its true capacity
I read that some chips are graded less than their true capacity simply because the manufacturer has already made enough top performing chips to satisfy the high end market. There is more demand for mid and low price range chips and by limiting the capacity of these excess top chips they can sell them without affecting the price of the top range by oversupplying them. Something to do with the manufacturing process producing variable capacity chips.
Then again I read this some time ago and the manufacturing process may well have changed since. Also, I don't know how you check what the true rating is of that chip you just bought, or how you can unlock its true capacity
Hi Ramses!
That's interesting, really. But as you wrote already, you can't be sure if you have such a chip. I wouldn't risk overclocking it.
I just did it once with my Radeon 9600 XT graphics card, which I used until April, I think. This chip has a special feature: dynamic overclocking. You can set it to maximum while the driver checks the current temperature when playing. If it gets too hot, the speed is reduced automatically. A nice feature, but still useless. The chip got hot within seconds, so the speed was reduced to normal shortly after I began playing. And the funny thing was that I had to exchange my graphics card in April, because it broke. The last temperature that was monitored was 98 degress Celsius - at normal clock rate.
Coco.
That's interesting, really. But as you wrote already, you can't be sure if you have such a chip. I wouldn't risk overclocking it.
I just did it once with my Radeon 9600 XT graphics card, which I used until April, I think. This chip has a special feature: dynamic overclocking. You can set it to maximum while the driver checks the current temperature when playing. If it gets too hot, the speed is reduced automatically. A nice feature, but still useless. The chip got hot within seconds, so the speed was reduced to normal shortly after I began playing. And the funny thing was that I had to exchange my graphics card in April, because it broke. The last temperature that was monitored was 98 degress Celsius - at normal clock rate.
Coco.
@coco: i had the same graphic card, and they're realy not good for overclocking, my was always superheated, at the normal frequencys. But then, i have a p4 3GHz@3,5GHz, using a "heatpipe" cooler, and the temperature is always around 50 degrees (overheat starts @ 70, normal cpu idle for all processors is about 40 degrees). Since i didnt even tweak the voltage settings, i'm thinking to go even further(if the ram keeps up). So voerclocking IS safe, if u know EXACTLY what hardware u use, and if u know how to monitor the parts correctly. The rough law is: cpus are easyer and safer to overclock than gpus.
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@ coco I have this cpu for almost 5 years now.. it has been clocked for more than 50% and it is still alive..
But i spend time and effort to make sure the cpu's life wasn't reduced
when you overclock your fsb by less than 50 mhz.. wich usually results in no more than 500mhz higher clockspeed, then your cpu won't die all that sooner.
But ofcourse you are right about extreme oc's..a cpu that runs 4.3 ghz oc'd will probably wear out faster than a normal one..
But I have a good deal of money to spend on pc's, for me it is actually cheaper, I am no budgetsystem user, but also can't afford 1500 euro systems.. that is why I usually stick with certain expensive parts and cheap parts that work together well and then overclock to get a result not so far away from a 1500 euro pc..and besides, the maximum time for a person to refresh his pc is 4 years anyways, if you want to keep up with everything, its a choice really..
But i spend time and effort to make sure the cpu's life wasn't reduced
when you overclock your fsb by less than 50 mhz.. wich usually results in no more than 500mhz higher clockspeed, then your cpu won't die all that sooner.
But ofcourse you are right about extreme oc's..a cpu that runs 4.3 ghz oc'd will probably wear out faster than a normal one..
But I have a good deal of money to spend on pc's, for me it is actually cheaper, I am no budgetsystem user, but also can't afford 1500 euro systems.. that is why I usually stick with certain expensive parts and cheap parts that work together well and then overclock to get a result not so far away from a 1500 euro pc..and besides, the maximum time for a person to refresh his pc is 4 years anyways, if you want to keep up with everything, its a choice really..