After long configuration, performance comparing, price checking.
I finally decided on a new system which I am buying next month.
So plz comment etc. bla bla..
I am buying the system at a local shop, so some stuff may not be familiar to you.
Motherboard:
For this I chose a standard mobo, with all the stuff needed raid etc.
No sli stuff no complicated useless crap.
It's a cheap Gigabyte mobo with a p35 chipset.
Only 70 euro's.
CPU:
I wanted to go with AMD first, but I aimed for the future, AMD will be operating on a new am3 socket soon, my guess is the new phenom cpu's will be socketed on an am3 too, I don't wanna wait for that. Intel's penryn cpu's will be coming out on 775 socket and p35 chipset so imo Intel is more future proof
So I have chosen the E6750 @ 2.666ghz, since I am buying it at my local shop the price is a bit higher than normal, 205 euro's. Other stuff is substantually cheaper so it compensates.
RAM:
I do not have any intentions for overclocking, so 800mhz is not needed.
I chose a simpel 2gb (dual channel) with 4-4-4 timings. 53.50 euro's.
Hard Disk:
160GB 16mb cache samsung spinpoint. 55 euro's.
VGA:
For me there was only 1 good option below the 300 euro, the maximum I wanted to spend for a vga card.
The 8800GTS 320mb/ 580/1800 mhz
A bit higher clocked than a normal 320. 299 euro's
Finally the last part, the PSU:
I have searched alot for a right and not too expensive psu.
For it to be able to handle the 8800 it needs to have at least 500 watt and at least 20a on 12v line.
So the shop I get my stuff from has alot of psu's, most of them brandless.
And I found one, 520 watt, with 22a on a 12v, the guy ensured me he would test it first to make sure. The price is very low only 61 euro.
Also for random stuff, like case fan's and other cooling and a floppy drive.
An extra 30 euro is required. With a total of 773,50 euro's.
This pc, in my eyes, is future proof.
The guy is giving me a discount, to let it land on 750 euro's.
So most of you, probaly all of you, won't give a shit about this long post.
But for the few who might care. Post ur comment!:D
New PC
-
}TCP{Ghost
- Posts: 1232
- https://www.facebook.com/warszawa.kuchnie.na.wymiar/
- Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:40 pm
- Location: Holland
- Contact:
-
}TCP{Ramses
- Posts: 3754
- Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 12:09 am
I've got an 8800 GTS 320 mb and I'm happy with it. Its worked well on my older titles and I like the nvidea control panel that lets you tweak and remembers the settings for each game.
I can't say how it does with UT3 because I havent tried the demo. I am still tweaking the UT2k settings because there are about 4 maps (including Waisten and deck17) that give 300 FPS or so but look and play like a slideshow, confusing but I think I have one or two of the settings set too high.
I can't say how it does with UT3 because I havent tried the demo. I am still tweaking the UT2k settings because there are about 4 maps (including Waisten and deck17) that give 300 FPS or so but look and play like a slideshow, confusing but I think I have one or two of the settings set too high.
-
}TCP{Ghost
- Posts: 1232
- Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:40 pm
- Location: Holland
- Contact:
@ghost: you choose a very good system, but i would still go with brand 800mhz ddr2 modules.. a bit pricy, but you will notice the diference (i think fsb and memory clock can be asynchrone on c2d, but nut sure, check it out). And if u have raid on the mo-bo, get two identical disks and u can get x2 performance (faster windows startup, programs load, game level load,..)
Tam pod kostanjevim drevesom,
izdala si me,
izdal sem te,
brez da bi trenila z očesom.
izdala si me,
izdal sem te,
brez da bi trenila z očesom.
I agree with THC its better to buy a brand ddr2-800 (eg. GeiL is very cheap at the moment) And as for you PSU I recomend to buy a branded PSU because even if you got 750W or more it can blow up with a 8800, but if youre shopkeeper will test it then its a better way to save some money this way 
Mobo gigabyte is a good choice they have good BIOS and aslong its p35 its never that bad for 70,-
I recomend for HDD to go for a Seagate or a Western Digital(I prefer WD) because they give lifewarranty.
The Graphicscard is a good choice at the moment, however the new G92 chip is coming wich will bring the new 8800gt wich is at a lower price but wont make big difference between the 8800gts(Im going for the 8800gts anyway because I dont trust any rumours anymore about release date since UT2007/3
)
But if youre just gonna use this to play UT3 then its a very good buy
Mobo gigabyte is a good choice they have good BIOS and aslong its p35 its never that bad for 70,-
I recomend for HDD to go for a Seagate or a Western Digital(I prefer WD) because they give lifewarranty.
The Graphicscard is a good choice at the moment, however the new G92 chip is coming wich will bring the new 8800gt wich is at a lower price but wont make big difference between the 8800gts(Im going for the 8800gts anyway because I dont trust any rumours anymore about release date since UT2007/3
)But if youre just gonna use this to play UT3 then its a very good buy
-
}TCP{Ghost
- Posts: 1232
- Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:40 pm
- Location: Holland
- Contact:
My friend has the same ram and it works fine with him, I can always replace it with 800mhz ram..ram doesn't cost anything these days.
The psu is indeed being tested..but I'm sure it will work out fine.
As for the disks, maybe later when I have more money.
My main focus is to have a mobo,cpu and gpu that is future proof.
My gts is better than the others..with 80mhz higher clocked.
It doesn't seem much but it indeed does make a difference of 5+ fps or so.
8800GT? where can I read more about that. However if the 8800gts is better I'd still stick with that..
The psu is indeed being tested..but I'm sure it will work out fine.
As for the disks, maybe later when I have more money.
My main focus is to have a mobo,cpu and gpu that is future proof.
My gts is better than the others..with 80mhz higher clocked.
It doesn't seem much but it indeed does make a difference of 5+ fps or so.
8800GT? where can I read more about that. However if the 8800gts is better I'd still stick with that..
Monday, 24 September 2007, 8:59 AM
"NVIDIA HAS a bunch of things in the pipe for its next generation of parts, and as usual, we bring them to you a bit ahead of schedule. Here are their plans for the next six months or so. Let us hope they get working drivers for the last-gen parts out before they are replaced. First up is the high end G92, a replacement for the 8800 lines. This is coming out in short order, we have heard two dates for it, November 12th and November 5th, the former being the more likely candidate. We have heard internal names of G92_200 and G92_300 for low and high end enthusiast parts respectively.
There is also a value part, the G98, launching in November as well. Seeing as how Nvidia works PR, it will probably not be on the 12th, twice the headlines is just that. The mid-range G96 is taping out really soon, and production is scheduled for next spring, April if all goes well.
The weird thing is that the above codes are for ASICs, that is fab talk. What you guys will see is a new naming convention. For the high-end, 'enthusiast' parts, it will be called D8E, mainstream will be D8P and value will have D8M. These correspond to G92, G96 and G98 respectively.
Notebooks will also have a new naming scheme, and they go one number up. They will be NB9E, NB9P and NB9M, the last letter signifies the same market segment as the desktop parts. Unless they can keep power under control, unlike the last few revs, their fate in this segment looks increasingly grim.
That brings us back to SLI, and what these beasts are capable of. A long time ago, we told you about three-way SLI, and it sank under the waves a while ago. Several people strongly hinted that this was due to broken drivers, an NV hallmark of late. Well, six months later, we guess they have it less broken, and we are told three-way will be pimped at the launch with quad following early next year.
With Nvidia's track record of late, we would not hold our breath for anything actually working. But, who knows? It might have got it right. In any event, at least you know what the plans are."
Thursday, 30 August 2007, 11:47 AM
"RUMOUR HAS IT that upcoming G92 is a mainstream chip, not the high-end refresh that the net has been wibbling about. Well, we can tell you that this rumour is nothing else but a bit of good old FUD, since either G92 is a high-end refresh or the company decided that a replacement for 8800GTS will be significantly faster than GeForce 8800 Ultra, leaving its high-end offering in shambles.
This baby sports some serious shading power, but more important is the fact that the memory installed on board is now GDDR4. 768MB of GDDR4, to be more precise. The amount of memory discards rumours of 256-bit bus, since it is obvious that Nvidia will keep 384-bit memory controller for the high-end series of products. We would welcome this memory controller in mainstream arena, though.
The bandwidth has now jumped over the 105 GB/s barrier, and it remains to be seen what will be the final clock of the memory – our estimate is between 1.0 and 1.2 GHz, or 2.0-2.4 GHz, but final clocks are far, far from being decided. The company needs to get the revised chip first, in order to have DisplayPort working nice and cleanly. Display Port is required for this company to get the Dell XPS contract – a new machine will be launched for Winter 2007/08, probably during CES 2008 in Las Vegas.
The company has already had some revisions of the board sent to their favourite game developers and other partners, and we can now tell you that the board is almost identical to old 8800 GTX/Ultra ones.
We would like to see 1.5GB of memory on consumer boards as well - the Quadro FX already spots 1.5GB of GDDR3 memory- but it is all a matter of price. Qimonda's high-capacity GDDR3 sounds very tasty for Nvidia plans, but for now. The reference boards sport Samsung GDDR4 chips.
We hope the situation about this upcoming silicon gem is now as clear as mud, not FUD."
Wednesday, 15 August 2007, 8:36 AM
"Nvidia has taped out chips which it will release later this year in a fresh assault to dominate the market. This includes a new king of the hill as well, the almighty G92 - also known as the GeForce "9800". Nvidia is paying quite a lot of attention to thermals and performance of the chip in complex shaders.
G92 was not the only product that was taped out, but we're waiting to dig out more details of these. However, one of the chips is Nvidia's counter to RV680. When it comes to manufacturing, Nvidia moved away from 80/90nm manufacturing processes over at TSMC and opted for a new manufacturing process.
Knowing Graphzilla's brilliant record of accomplishment and 100 day "tape-out to retail shelf" policy, the new GeForce should debut in late October or early November. However, our sources told us that company is now devoting key time to fixing problems with the existing GeForce 8000 series of cards, caused by "buggy chips", as one source put it. This might impair the performance of initial drivers.
After seeing all the problems that plagued owners of Radeon HD 2000 and GeForce 8000 series of cards, we must start questioning whether the industry going in the right way.
One Quad SLI source said: "If I own a Ferrari, I expect that the value of the car will grow, but even if it does not - I do expect a premium service. With these two boards, I got worse treatment than a person who bought a €99 card, and I spent more than 10x that - €1100."
It will be interesting to see what will happen in Autumn. However, if you are expecting a G92 versus R680 battle, you might want to wait until after Yuletide. AMD is focusing on R(V)670 right now."
"NVIDIA HAS a bunch of things in the pipe for its next generation of parts, and as usual, we bring them to you a bit ahead of schedule. Here are their plans for the next six months or so. Let us hope they get working drivers for the last-gen parts out before they are replaced. First up is the high end G92, a replacement for the 8800 lines. This is coming out in short order, we have heard two dates for it, November 12th and November 5th, the former being the more likely candidate. We have heard internal names of G92_200 and G92_300 for low and high end enthusiast parts respectively.
There is also a value part, the G98, launching in November as well. Seeing as how Nvidia works PR, it will probably not be on the 12th, twice the headlines is just that. The mid-range G96 is taping out really soon, and production is scheduled for next spring, April if all goes well.
The weird thing is that the above codes are for ASICs, that is fab talk. What you guys will see is a new naming convention. For the high-end, 'enthusiast' parts, it will be called D8E, mainstream will be D8P and value will have D8M. These correspond to G92, G96 and G98 respectively.
Notebooks will also have a new naming scheme, and they go one number up. They will be NB9E, NB9P and NB9M, the last letter signifies the same market segment as the desktop parts. Unless they can keep power under control, unlike the last few revs, their fate in this segment looks increasingly grim.
That brings us back to SLI, and what these beasts are capable of. A long time ago, we told you about three-way SLI, and it sank under the waves a while ago. Several people strongly hinted that this was due to broken drivers, an NV hallmark of late. Well, six months later, we guess they have it less broken, and we are told three-way will be pimped at the launch with quad following early next year.
With Nvidia's track record of late, we would not hold our breath for anything actually working. But, who knows? It might have got it right. In any event, at least you know what the plans are."
Thursday, 30 August 2007, 11:47 AM
"RUMOUR HAS IT that upcoming G92 is a mainstream chip, not the high-end refresh that the net has been wibbling about. Well, we can tell you that this rumour is nothing else but a bit of good old FUD, since either G92 is a high-end refresh or the company decided that a replacement for 8800GTS will be significantly faster than GeForce 8800 Ultra, leaving its high-end offering in shambles.
This baby sports some serious shading power, but more important is the fact that the memory installed on board is now GDDR4. 768MB of GDDR4, to be more precise. The amount of memory discards rumours of 256-bit bus, since it is obvious that Nvidia will keep 384-bit memory controller for the high-end series of products. We would welcome this memory controller in mainstream arena, though.
The bandwidth has now jumped over the 105 GB/s barrier, and it remains to be seen what will be the final clock of the memory – our estimate is between 1.0 and 1.2 GHz, or 2.0-2.4 GHz, but final clocks are far, far from being decided. The company needs to get the revised chip first, in order to have DisplayPort working nice and cleanly. Display Port is required for this company to get the Dell XPS contract – a new machine will be launched for Winter 2007/08, probably during CES 2008 in Las Vegas.
The company has already had some revisions of the board sent to their favourite game developers and other partners, and we can now tell you that the board is almost identical to old 8800 GTX/Ultra ones.
We would like to see 1.5GB of memory on consumer boards as well - the Quadro FX already spots 1.5GB of GDDR3 memory- but it is all a matter of price. Qimonda's high-capacity GDDR3 sounds very tasty for Nvidia plans, but for now. The reference boards sport Samsung GDDR4 chips.
We hope the situation about this upcoming silicon gem is now as clear as mud, not FUD."
Wednesday, 15 August 2007, 8:36 AM
"Nvidia has taped out chips which it will release later this year in a fresh assault to dominate the market. This includes a new king of the hill as well, the almighty G92 - also known as the GeForce "9800". Nvidia is paying quite a lot of attention to thermals and performance of the chip in complex shaders.
G92 was not the only product that was taped out, but we're waiting to dig out more details of these. However, one of the chips is Nvidia's counter to RV680. When it comes to manufacturing, Nvidia moved away from 80/90nm manufacturing processes over at TSMC and opted for a new manufacturing process.
Knowing Graphzilla's brilliant record of accomplishment and 100 day "tape-out to retail shelf" policy, the new GeForce should debut in late October or early November. However, our sources told us that company is now devoting key time to fixing problems with the existing GeForce 8000 series of cards, caused by "buggy chips", as one source put it. This might impair the performance of initial drivers.
After seeing all the problems that plagued owners of Radeon HD 2000 and GeForce 8000 series of cards, we must start questioning whether the industry going in the right way.
One Quad SLI source said: "If I own a Ferrari, I expect that the value of the car will grow, but even if it does not - I do expect a premium service. With these two boards, I got worse treatment than a person who bought a €99 card, and I spent more than 10x that - €1100."
It will be interesting to see what will happen in Autumn. However, if you are expecting a G92 versus R680 battle, you might want to wait until after Yuletide. AMD is focusing on R(V)670 right now."
Ghost you said-->So most of you, probaly all of you, won't give a shit about this long post.
No true for my own I liked that couse it helping me out to find a good pc too!
Btw ns stuff....
No true for my own I liked that couse it helping me out to find a good pc too!
Btw ns stuff....
×÷·.·´¯`·)»}TCP{māģĭς«(·´¯`·.·÷×
ÇâřŅà Ġξ, Ẅöľדּ, ŔÄMşÃ¨ŝ, Ĉếẹ, ζżςÃ¥ţ, қĨŀļểг, ĈҺĔŜҢÃŒřẽ, Ţ@ζ, vâń, şņÕŵβįЯđ, ςőċŌ, ÃξŀļÔψ, ğĦǿ∫Ŧ, Å ỀИťїς, ŤЯãŃ₪ŪÃĺĺŦỸ, ŚҝĂяĭפֿ§ċðūţ, ģĹëňҒїĎđÃŒĈҺ, ҒêÃЯ^, ¤Shð≥^..
ċŐÞҰгĭĞŋ‡© 2008
ÇâřŅà Ġξ, Ẅöľדּ, ŔÄMşÃ¨ŝ, Ĉếẹ, ζżςÃ¥ţ, қĨŀļểг, ĈҺĔŜҢÃŒřẽ, Ţ@ζ, vâń, şņÕŵβįЯđ, ςőċŌ, ÃξŀļÔψ, ğĦǿ∫Ŧ, Å ỀИťїς, ŤЯãŃ₪ŪÃĺĺŦỸ, ŚҝĂяĭפֿ§ċðūţ, ģĹëňҒїĎđÃŒĈҺ, ҒêÃЯ^, ¤Shð≥^..
ċŐÞҰгĭĞŋ‡© 2008
-
}TCP{Ghost
- Posts: 1232
- Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:40 pm
- Location: Holland
- Contact:
The 8800gt will have a 256 and a 512 version at the price of 199,- and 245,- and there will be a new version of the 8800gts so that the gt version wont outshine the gts so it will still be Ultra->GTX->GTS->GT.
Also the chip will be made with the new 65nm technique if you dont know what that is nevermind then And the 8800gt will be less power consuming then the gts so youre psu wont frie that easily
There is a rumour that the 8800gt will be released this monday but dont count on that it will be released on the first half of November together with the new gts version.
Conclusion: You can keep youre configuration but wait for youre buy so that youll have the new 8800GTS version with better performance. If you rather save more then you could go for the 8800gt 256 or 512 either will be good enough to play UT3 at atleast mid settings
and there will be a new version of the 8800gts so that the gt version wont outshine the gts so it will still be Ultra->GTX->GTS->GT.Also the chip will be made with the new 65nm technique if you dont know what that is nevermind then
And the 8800gt will be less power consuming then the gts so youre psu wont frie that easilyThere is a rumour that the 8800gt will be released this monday but dont count on that
it will be released on the first half of November together with the new gts version.Conclusion: You can keep youre configuration but wait for youre buy so that youll have the new 8800GTS version with better performance. If you rather save more then you could go for the 8800gt 256 or 512 either will be good enough to play UT3 at atleast mid settings