List of "lame" weapons

[the_kay]

Perhaps you know those players or even are one yourself

Player $1 gets killed by Weapon $2.
Player $1 says: "$2 is a lame noob-weapon, it's totaly unfair"

So what I'm gonna do is create a list with all weapons which are - in the opinion of some players unfair and lame.

Here we go.

Normal Weapons
- Spider Mines
- Bio rifle

Superweapons
- Redeemer

Vehicles
- Ion Tank
- Leviathan (how could I forget this )


Note: This list will be updated. Hopefully it will contain every weapon someday so that you aren't allowed to shoot at all if you want to satisfy all demands of all players. Feel free to post your own "lame" weapons (only if you heard someone else saying they are lame, or if you think yourself they suck).

[}TCP{seNtic]

What I think is really lame, the bio rifle, especially in TAM lol, people load it and run to the enemy, and then, blooob, your dead . I often use it though but its a quite annoying gun.

Edit: ahh, see you also got that on your list lol <3

[Muh]

Here we go.

Normal Weapons
- Spider Mines
- Bio rifle[/i]

don't say anything against MY BIO RIFLE..

Many Players had lost their lives because of my Bio RIFLE...

it's an important weapon to me...

grrr

(but okay - you've right - the bio is a little bit unfair)

[Meledictum]

Ion tank - i said that many times: this vehicle has been designed for Assault game mode, not ONS. In ONS Ion Tank is a "little" overpowered. Did you ever wonder why there is no ion tank on Toran, Red Planet etc.? :p

Deemer - TBH I don't see anything "unfair" in this weapon (yes, I know, the damage is 999, and you don't even have to aim, but it takes 55 seconds to respawn). The only problem are peoples who are stiiiil using it, they camp near reedemers spawn etc. (why there is no "No super-weapons" mutator on our ONS server? :/)

Spider Mines - they are lame (you have only to release it, the mine will do the rest), and they can cause lags (each object in the game that can move, like vehicles, players, opening doors, and each power-up, like weapon pickups, weapon lockers, health vials, shield paks etc. are creating a "channel". Spider Mines also are creating channels. If the number of channels is too high, the server can get laggy.

Bio Rifle isn't so lame... In ONS (large and open spaces - Bio is useless there), but in TAM it can be pretty lame.

[the_kay]

@Muh: Uhhmm, perhaps there is an misunderstanding. I personally just want to make fun of all this dividing into lame weapons and fair weapons. I personally can't think of a weapon that is inherently unfair (of course you can use every weapon/vehicle for unfair purposes, like spawncamping with a Leviathan)

[PingKing]

i wud say that fair weapons are:
lightning gun
shok rifle
rocket launcher (when used in moderation)
Flak Cannon (when used in moderation)
link gun (all the time according to Kobra hehe)

[Kobra]

nothing more fun than hunting pingking with the linkgun

[}TCP{Marcin.B.BlackT32]

For me lame weapons are:
Spider Mines
Ion Plasma Tank

Others are not so lame. Even redemeer or leviathan, becaouse for example deemer is super weapon os doesn't spawns so often like those crappy mines, and levi is less lame than Ion Tank, because its must be deployed before shot, so there is some balance, what Ion Plasma Tank and Mine Layer doesn't have.

[PingKing]

hehe kob u kno i love you really 1 day we will fly away.

[SLAPHEAD]

If it kills then it ok.
There are no such thing as lame weapons.
Only ideas that you peeps have in your minds.

Mel,you moan about everything!
Kay,you are a animal lover who listern to Slayer and you talk about lame weapons.!!

I have killed alot of people by blowin myself up and taking them with me.
Is this lame?
I am a spam head,is this lame?
I run people over in a raptor,is this lame?

Sorry guys but its not about weapons beening lame,this is about what you personly feel is right and wrong.

[}TCP{Coco]

Hi the_kay!

Ahh, you refer to my comment about spider mines in our last ONS game, right? Well, in general, I don't think that spider mines are really lame weapons. Ok, you don't need much skill to use them, but I like those little things with their own life. It also isn't that hard to fight a player who throws them in combat.

It's just in this special map, ONS-Battlefront-Rilez, where they drive me mad. When you enter the bunker to assault node 3 (or 6), you usually have tanks in your back, shooting at you, the defenders of the node shooting at you from the front, a long way to go straight forward and very little space to move at all. And just when you managed to survive them all and kill your opponents, there comes one of these dozen spider mines that were left there for auto defense and you're dead.

So to successfully attack such a node, you have to avoid the tank shots, kill about 4 defenders in average, shoot the node again and again so they can't respawn there and shoot the spiders before they notice you. And while doing all that, you almost can't move at all because you have to clear the ground from the spiders first.

All this makes it nearly impossible to attack the node, especially if there's no second offender in your team as many players seem to camp or defend in this map. If you try to attack again and again and again and AGAIN and many times almost succeed except of the spiders, this can make you crazy.

I think the map author had good reasons not to place spiders in the weapon locker of these nodes. But, of course, players teleport somewhere else to get them.

Don't get me wrong: When I defend there, I use them as well. They are effective, no question. But in my opinion they are too powerful at these two nodes.

So no personal offense intended, kay. When I wrote "these spiders are lame", I didn't even know or notice that you put them there - if you did at all!? It was just the 1000000001th time these mines killed me there and even if I have good patience in general, this is frustrating sooner or later.

Anyway, in general I think, the weapons in the game are quite well balanced. Some require more skill, some require less. Some are very powerful, others are more precise. Usually, there's something for every distance and every situation...

Coco.

[}TCP{Wolf]

What's lame about the spider mines is the fact you have to camp or stay out of any heated firefight, because when you die, all your spider mines vanish with you.

Then of course, every weapon as lame, this wouldn't be much fun without the occasional crybaby yapping about shit

[}TCP{Ramses]

The only lame thing in TAM for me is the use of invisibility, but I like resurrection and you can't have one without the other

[}TCP{Marcin.B.BlackT32]

If it kills then it ok.
There are no such thing as lame weapons.
Only ideas that you peeps have in your minds.

Mel,you moan about everything!
Kay,you are a animal lover who listern to Slayer and you talk about lame weapons.!!

I have killed alot of people by blowin myself up and taking them with me.
Is this lame?
I am a spam head,is this lame?
I run people over in a raptor,is this lame?

Sorry guys but its not about weapons beening lame,this is about what you personly feel is right and wrong.

Well maybe you're right. But weapons spooked about here are lame anyway .

[the_kay]

There are no such thing as lame weapons.

Yes, you are right. My posts were just satire, I was not serious and just wanted to make fun of it.

Kay,you are a animal lover who listern to Slayer and you talk about lame weapons.!!

I'm not exactly an animal lover. You wrongly grouped me together with someone who is very different from me.
Perhaps you can see this difference with an analogy: The animal lover is like a rich person having human slaves. He treats some slaves good because he thinks they have a cute face or something like that. I'm the person who is against slavery. As you might notice, me and the animal lover, we don't have much in common...

@Coco:
Ok, maybe it is unfair to use spider mines in those bunkers in Battlefront. But as you might remember I asked about " a weapon that is inherently unfair". So the question is not: "Is it unfair in Battlefront" but "is it unfair at all?"
We can discuss the question about spiders in Battlefront in another discussion, perhaps in the server setup / request forum.

What's lame about the spider mines is the fact you have to camp or stay out of any heated firefight, because when you die, all your spider mines vanish with you.

Then of course, every weapon as lame, this wouldn't be much fun without the occasional crybaby yapping about shit

This is partly true. I usually get spiders, teleport to the bunker and place spiders. This doesn't take me too long. I usually won't suicide-attack, but I personally find it boring to wait always for the enemy, so I will attack (and die) sooner or later