[13:22] Yoshi: I hate gta
[13:23] Yoshi: overrated crap
[13:23] Somebody: oh its not so bad...the missions are good and all..the only thing i dont like about it is everyone who only plays it to run around shooting folk
[13:23] Somebody: that is NOT what computer games are about
[13:23] Yoshi:
[13:23] Yoshi: So is it like quake 3 and perfect dark combined
[13:23] Somebody: but san andreas isnt as good as its said to be...the graphix are horrible
[13:24] Somebody: well, those arnt popular solely because you can run around shooting things
[13:24] Somebody: in fact they arnt very popular at all compared to GTA
[13:24] Yoshi: what isnt popular?
[13:24] Somebody: perfect dark and quake
[13:24] Yoshi: Quake serie is a lot more famous than gta serie
[13:25] Somebody: no its not heh
[13:25] Yoshi: yep it is
[13:25] Yoshi: not on console
[13:25] Yoshi: but in gaming world, well gta sells much more these days
[13:25] Somebody: look at the facts, if you go into the street and ask any person what GTA is theyl know its the game for the ps2 that you run around killing folk
[13:25] Yoshi: but quake has a name
[13:26] Yoshi: everybody knows about gta cause its another gimmick game
[13:26] Somebody: thats not the point, in the real world, the world where people dont much like computer games, GTA is more popular
[13:26] Yoshi: thats way too overrated
[13:26] Somebody: which is exactly my point!
[13:26] Somebody: but that doesnt stop the fact that it is the most popular game in history
[13:26] Yoshi: Actually, pc gaming is getting bigger and bigger
[13:26] Yoshi: uhm...
[13:27] Somebody: but will never grow to the size of the GTA franchise within like the next 20 years
[13:27] Somebody: you know even people who never even touched a computer before went out and bought san adreas...
[13:28] Somebody: it got like more sales than vice city and gta3's first week , on the first day of release
[13:28] Yoshi: Actually gta isnt the biggest name
[13:28] Somebody: if ya get what i mean
[13:28] Yoshi: Look, resident evil 4 even managed to get a name really as big as anyof the gta games
[13:28] Somebody: well, perhaps tomb raider, but no1 plays that anymore...its obsolete
[13:28] Yoshi: tomb raider isnt even a big name anymore
[13:28] Somebody: not really...it didnt sell like a billion copies on its first day
[13:29] Yoshi: Theres several big names
[13:29] Yoshi: Nor did gta
[13:29] Somebody: but none bigger than GTA...see, i dont even like the game, and partly because its so popular....but the fact is, its put across this image of the computer games world as being all about violence and jacking cars and for troublemakers who like to vandalise things
[13:30] Somebody: the majority of people see it that way
[13:30] Yoshi: its not true
[13:30] Somebody: it doesnt matter that we dont see it that way, we're a tiny minority really
[13:30] Yoshi: Gta may be the biggest name for the ps2
[13:30] Somebody: in all of computer games really
[13:30] Yoshi: but not on pc, not on gamecube, not on xbox etc
[13:30] Yoshi: no
[13:30] Somebody: yes, but in computer games in general...
[13:31] Somebody: ya gotta look at the bigger picture heh
[13:31] Yoshi: Only a few inlooking of all plays vice city on pc
[13:31] Yoshi: Well I think i know gaming world a bit more than you
[13:31] Yoshi: tbh
[13:31] Somebody: look at all the different industries in the world...theres TV shows making comments about it, because its a recognized franchise...theres hollywood celebrities signing up to do voice acting for it just so they can be more popular
[13:31] Yoshi: I know all that gta went really big after gta 3
[13:31] Yoshi: but its not the biggest name, never
[13:32] Yoshi: yes, but its still not the biggest game
[13:32] Somebody: so what is the biggest name?
[13:33] Yoshi: I dont know exactly, as its hard saying cause just a selling amount doesnt mean its larger
[13:34] Somebody: you'know, im not talking about just popular in the gaming comunity, or in pc gamers, or xbox gamers..im talking about the whole world...every industry...the amount of attention it got is phenominal
[13:34] Somebody: but it got attention for all the wrong reasons, thats the point im making
[13:34] Somebody: its infamous
