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hmm, so ive goten the new comp now tho, sucks to lose so much stuff as i did with the previous PC.

Well, anyway, thought i might share how it is for a long line XP user like myself going into this new age Windows 7 stuff etc.

First off, Windows 7 is annoying. Less annoying then vista, but still annoying. At least from a xp viewer side. People who had vista, and changes to w7 will get less annoyed and perhaps even content with it when u compare it to vista.

Just some issues ive experinced so far.

web pages, if u mix between 4-6 webpages at the same time im amazed how often it actualy get stuck. Luckly if u decide to close the problematic webpage, it closes all windows, but it remembers them so you can quickly resume your web activities. But again, gets stuck way to often. With my old Xp it was no prob mixin up to 10-20pages. And i had a slower and less ram pc. Both was Internet explorer 8.

Windows media player:
After 1 day of usage, this thing seem to goten stuck as well, evrytime i start the pc and open up WMP it gets stuck. I havent fully tryd to fix it yet, or tried so much yet, but the last 5 times ive started WMP its goten stuck. Freezes up, and you cant even close it.(Restart only option)

Wich is nxt prob with W7, so much stuff that freezes and you cant close it in any way. Games, prog, web etc.

Same gaming issues as with vista. If certain games dident work on vista and needed some special patch or some other download content. You will pretty much need the same thing for W7, at least these vista patches work for w7, With running in compability mode. (Run as admin, etc bla bla stuff)

Why on earth watchin youtube vids has turned into a complete nightmare with W7 i have no idea. Maybe i need to change alot of stuff, but the default for evrything is just weird and faulty. I can barly explain it lol, but the Web window(at bottom) for your webpages, just act so weird sometimes. You dont need to click on anything, hold you mouse over and it shows your webpages, hold your mouse over the page and the page appears, but if u move your mouse up, to the page it will disspear, u gota left click the page. Wich is fine, but to prevent from accident viewing pages you shoulda been have to left click at least once to be able to see a page, not just moving your mouse around. Sub windows has also a spot on their own, Like when you open page under the page(u know like a window in a window. Without opening a completly new Web window u just open a new section, under this 1 window). But here, at bottom again all these will appear on this horizontal collum. So if you got 2 windows open and 1 of them has total 4 sections. Wich means 5 diffrent webpages and it will show 5 pages at bottom, but its only 2 windows. So if u accidently close the first all other 3 sections will follow. Wich for me is easy to get fooled by cause you look at bottom, "ow i close this 1 i got 5 pages up i see". And oops, all closes.

Im proaly nitt pickin alot, and maybe some probs aint even related to W7, but dosent change the fact that this system annoyes me, the XP was simpler and quieter + less b!tchen. (pardon language).

PS: Windows live messenger, has to be the most evil program in the entire world. Leave me alone and let me do stuff, jesus lol. Have to remove this imprinted program too.

Hi Ronny!

Hmm, that doesn't sound good. I'm also planning on getting a new PC with Windows 7 (currently using XP as well). So I might encounter the same problems.

However, all these deadlock problems make me think that there's something wrong with your system in general. If so many things freeze up, it's probably not the fault of Windows 7, but some hardware issue (insufficient power supply, overheating, wrong timings or voltages for RAM or CPU or whatever).

Anyway, you really should try to get used to Firefox instead of continuing with Internet Explorer 8. Seriously, you really should. IE has so many vulnerabilities and is target number one for any website provided malicious code. And besides the security risk, Firefox'es features are unbeatable with all its extentions. I recommend installing Firefox with the following add-ons: NoScript, CookieSafe and Adblock Plus. Further recommendations would be: Download Helper, DownThemAll! and IE Tab (the latter runs IE in the FF window with the page you had currently opened, just in case a page is only displayable in IE).

Coco.

ty for the tip coco:), ill try out Firefox.

No overheating, power supply is sufficent, but what with wrong timings and voltages?. me needs a little more explanation cause u see, me is dumb

Also encountered another prob, i dont actualy seem to be able to run a little older games. F.e i got Bloodrayne 2 lying around, had it for like a year, havent tryd it yet lol, but i cant even get that far to install it. Nothing happends, tryd running the setup with diff compability modes etc, but nothing. Been googling, but havent found anything usefull yet.

why don't you just reinstal your pc whit win XP?

yeah the freezing isn't something regularly from windows 7, installed it on my laptop.. didn't went stuck yet. neither did it on some of my friends computers (unless they do something stupid =P)

firefox ftw (no need to say more)
Only downside is it uses alot of memory sometimes

what coco means with timings & voltages:
if u bought all components of your computer as pieces to put them in each other yourself the default memory timings / voltages could be wrong at some points. highly unlikely but possible. u might need to check inside your bios at start up to check.

write down the timings & voltages they need. compare them, change if needed (and possible lol)

for those older game, u might need to turn uac off and maybe another preventive setting. before installing them something might prevent installing parts of your games into register of w/e. i tried installing something on my laptop, didn't work but haven't got any error messages to know something was wrong. so i putted that crap off right clicked & installed as admin to check. and it worked.. very stupid, the windows gives way to much pop ups when not needed, and none when theres actually something wrong =p

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Komplett put it together, dont think they would make that mistake tho. That timing & voltage, pretty reliable company. Dont wanna mess around to much inside my pc either^^, so lets rule out that 1 for now. But ofc a slim possiblity, but wanna check other options first.

UAC is off, but dident help.

Dunno if this info is usefull, but i can run games i could barly/or not at all before, On the highest setting with no prob. Runs perfectly smooth. Games like Bioshock, highest setting np. UT 3 highest setting NP. NWN 2 Highest sett NP. Its just on Deskop interface etc, that things often gets stuck. Like right now suddly microsoft office appeared out of nowhere with a message window and froze,jeez ty. And my WMP just dosent work at all anymore. Have frozen completly, tryd using crap cleaner and some register cleaner if that might help, but nope. Cause wouldent u think if it was some hardware issues, those woulda been most apperent when playing games that would utterly kill my previos pc?.

Ty for help and explanation tho m8 .

PS: Noticed firefox was faster then Internet explorer 8 ^^. Works alright so far.

jeah like i said, highly unlikely ^^

but ya never know, i had updated my bios of my old asus striker extreme and the default voltage of the processor was to low to actually start up a duo core.. =p

so it wasnt even possible to change the setting in bios =D

Hi!

Yes indeed, I meant RAM and CPU timing and voltage settings in BIOS. When they're not set up correctly, the system may become instable. The safest thing to do norally is to set them to auto. But as Muppet already wrote, even auto settings can be wrong. I had that with my current mainboard years ago. After a BIOS update with timings set to auto, I could buy new RAMs cause the ones I had so far didn't work anymore. Crazy, eh? I would at least try entering BIOS and see what's configured. But you shouldn't change anything if you don't know what to do.

Second thing that just comes into my mind is that your system probably got infected already. Did you have firewall and virus protection active when you put your system online for the first time? Cause if all games are running with no problems and just IE and WMP are having issues, that somehow sounds like an infected system to me. Let's hope I'm wrong. Nevertheless, I'd recommend scanning it with some up to date antivirus software (like AntiVir, for example).

Coco.

did u made a system classification? and also try Driver Genius Professional Edition is the best software to update ur drivers of Windows 7 even if u think u have the latest u dont.

I used XP for years and never tried using Vista. Now I got W7 installed and work with it daily and never have problems with computer freezes and stuff like that (besides that my computer is very slow ).

Only thing I don't use W7 for is gaming. I only play UT2004 and have only installed windows XP soley for that purpose in a dual boot setup.

I had both Firewall and anit virus prog running before entering online, did a scan nonetheless. But no virus found.
Will perhaps dl some other anti-virus. Atm its Norton Internet security that followed with pc.

Programs that has frozen up so far. Some works after restart, some dont.

Microsoft office
Windows live messenger
Webpages, Internet explorer 8.
Windows media player.(frozen for good)
Control Panel. (when i tryd uninstall some stuff under program).

I will check out, Driver genius professional and BIOS Timing & voltage.

EDIT: tryd some diffrent register cleaners etc, 1 of em found a bunch of errors in the registry, and removed them(250probs). Now WMP works again. Alot of em seemed to be something with the graphic, im gona tripple check evrything and make sure evrything is updated. Might just be an update issue.

Good to hear that you are making some progress at least ... it must be very frustrating with it being a new pc.

I'm still finding bloatware things in XP that are installed with "important" updates but turn out to be not required or useful to me

also dont forget to run TUNE UP 2010 it helps Windows 7 with errors

Ty ramses

timeless wrote:also dont forget to run TUNE UP 2010 it helps Windows 7 with errors

Ye was one of the reg cleaners i runned ^^

Ty for tip and help evryone

The more i update the more stable the PC seems to get, so it seems it was mostly just an update issue.

Ty all again tho .