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Node setup ArcticStronghold
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:44 pm
by the_kay
I request the removal of the second node setup of ArcticStronghold (which looks something like the following:)
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C C is Power Core
/ \ N is Power Node
N N
\ /
N <-- This is where all the fighting happens
/ \
N N
\ /
C
The reason is that all the fighting happens on the middle node and it's nearly impossible to build and hold it. The map usually ends in Overtime and one team wins with 12:0 (or something similar...)
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:11 pm
by THC_54j0
i played it today and i liked it, thats how ons should be... to the last minute-total carnage ^^
C
/ \
N N
\ /
N <-- This is where all the fun happens
/ \
N N
\ /
C
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:18 pm
by }TCP{Marcin.B.BlackT32
No! ONS is tactic gameplay, teamplaying, wise using guns and vehicles, not some spamage like in biggest craps (Gunshop, MassDestruction-these maps are more like VTDM-Vehicle Team Deathmatch). If you want play massacre then go play Invasion (which is fun IMO)
.
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:12 pm
by Kobra
THC_54j0 wrote:i played it today and i liked it, thats how ons should be... to the last minute-total carnage ^^
C
/ \
N N
\ /
N <-- This is where all the fun happens
/ \
N N
\ /
C
exacly my thought
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:04 am
by }TCP{Snowbird
I played in that one also lastnight. Even though the second game went fast, both times I played were exciteing. Yes, the middle node is hard to take/defend, it is that much more fun to keep trying.
Re: Node setup ArcticStronghold
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:34 pm
by the_kay
The middle node has the same problem as the middle Nodes in BitchSlap:
a) It is not protected by any nearby walls.
b) It can be shot easily by a position that is nearby enemy power nodes. (means: Enemy spawn and attack fast, killing them will result their return in a short period of time. They can also shoot the Node with Shock/LG from far away)
c) They are absolutely necessary to win; there is no alternative way.
Things get worse with more players.
You can't do anything about a) and b) without changing much of the maps structure, but you can do something about c), giving the teams a chance to use another way to win.
To propose something concrete:
What do you think about the following link setup? 2 more nodes have to be placed for that one
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C C is Power Core
/ \ N is Power Node
N--N
/ \ / \
N N N <-- fighting is at many points
\ / \ /
N--N <-- isolating up to 3 enemy nodes is possible
\ /
C
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:48 pm
by Taz
Lol, nice drawing
Re: Node setup ArcticStronghold
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:37 pm
by }TCP{Coco
Hi!
}TCP{the_kay wrote:What do you think about the following link setup? 2 more nodes have to be placed for that one
Looks interesting. But where to put them?
Coco.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:31 pm
by }TCP{Wolf
For the Carnage lovers, this should do:
Re: Node setup ArcticStronghold
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:41 pm
by the_kay
Lol @ Wolf
}TCP{Coco wrote:Hi!
}TCP{the_kay wrote:What do you think about the following link setup? 2 more nodes have to be placed for that one
Looks interesting. But where to put them?
Coco.
I made some screenshots of possible positions. It's not easy though, because the map is small and there are not many places for additional nodes...
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:53 pm
by }TCP{Coco
Hi!
Nice, kay. This could work well. Maybe, we should give it a try. It doesn't matter that the node locations aren't perfect in every aspect. They rarely are.
Coco.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:19 pm
by THC_54j0
the map is a bit small for more nodes... why don't you just remove the middle one and make two paths (so, that in one case its possible, for both sides to atack cores simultaniously(i know, i type like a russian^^)
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:10 pm
by the_kay
THC_54j0 wrote:the map is a bit small for more nodes... why don't you just remove the middle one and make two paths (so, that in one case its possible, for both sides to atack cores simultaniously(i know, i type like a russian^^)
You mean something like the following?
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C C is Power Core
/ \ N is Power Node
N N
| |
N N
\ /
C
Hm, I think this is a bit boring. Perhaps it would be better to cross the Nodes, making it a bit more surprising and interesting:
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C C is Power Core
/ \ N is Power Node
N N
|\ /|
|/ \|
N N
\ /
C
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:15 pm
by THC_54j0
yes, like the second one, i ment like that ^^
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:51 am
by Meledictum
http://www.tcpclan.net/phpforum/viewtop ... 8785#28785 better version of Arctic Stronghold with new nodes and new link setups.